Great but Obscure Records

topic posted Sun, February 8, 2004 - 11:14 AM by  Inspector
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I pinched this from the All About Jazz web site (allaboutjazz.com.)

"Ask for the best 10 or 100 albums of all time and you'll get the usual suspects: "Kind of Blue," "Saxophone Colossus," Armstrong's "Hot Fives and Sevens", "Jazz at Massey Hall," etc. Without a doubt, these albums have earned their acclaim... But what about the great, less well-known, even obscure albums? Don't we all have favorite albums that don't ever seem to make the top 100 -- yet always find their way to our turntables? Let's share our discoveries... "
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  • Re: Great but Obscure Records

    Sun, February 8, 2004 - 12:14 PM
    I play these records *constantly* and while they are not really "obscure" most of them don't seem to ever make it on top 100 lists.

    Curtis Amy & Dupree Bolton - Kantanga!
    Mulatu Astatke - Ethio Jazz
    Donald Byrd - Slow Drag
    Sonny Clark - Leapin' And Lopin'
    Booker Ervin - The Freedom Book
    Rahsaan Roland Kirk - The Inflated Tear
    Pete La Roca - Basra
    Pete La Roca - Turkish Women At The Bath
    Yusef Lateef - Eastern Sounds
    Masada - Gimel
    Jackie McLean - Right Now!
    Hank Mobley - A Slice Of The Top
    Herbie Nichols - Herbie Nichols Trio
    John Patton - Accent On The Blues
    Art Pepper - Smack Up
    Horace Silver - The Tokyo Blues
    Gabor Szabo - Bacchanal
    Mal Waldron - The Quest
    Larry Young - Into Somethin'
    John Zorn - The Circle Maker
  • Great but Obscure Records

    Sat, March 13, 2004 - 10:54 PM
    So, what, nobody likes anything that off the beaten path? C'mon, don't keep that stuff to yourself now. I'm thirsty for some new music, wuddya got.
    • Re: Great but Obscure Records

      Sun, March 14, 2004 - 2:05 AM
      juju - chapter two:nia
      larry coryell - fairyland
      eric kloss - doors
      joe farrell - upon this rock
      prince lasha - inside story
      andrew hill - dusk
      dizzy gillespie - souled out

      more later
      • Eric Kloss?

        Mon, March 15, 2004 - 9:39 PM
        Eric Kloss? Never heard of him, so I do a quick search on AMG, turns out he's *fronted* bands with Pat Martino, Jaki Byard, Richard Davis, Alan Dawson, Cedar Walton, Kenny Barron, Jack DeJohnette, Booker Ervin, Chick Corea, "Groove" Holmes and Don Patterson.

        How the fuck did this I miss this guy.

        Thanks for the tip!
      • Re: Great but Obscure Records

        Mon, April 17, 2006 - 6:29 PM
        shit I looked at that thing and I see I promised more obscure jazz titles 2 years ago.

        so here goes:

        tubby hayes - tubby's groove
        rufus harley - re creation of the gods (bagpipe jazz!)
        shamek farrah & sonelius smith - the world of the children
        brother jack mc duff with benny golson - the dynamic jack mc duff
        herbie nichols trio - s/t
        dave pike - the doors of perception
        keith tippett group - dedicated to you but you weren't listening
  • Re: Great but Obscure Records

    Sun, March 14, 2004 - 6:37 PM
    I mentioned this in an earlier "Jazz Albums" posting:

    "The Swingin'st" Gene Ammons/Bennie Green (VeeJay Records,
    now available as a reissue on Rhino)

    Others I like:

    - On The Trail, Bud Shank 2002
    - Any Bennie Green Recording (excellent compilation on Mosaic
    Select)
    - Early 60s Pacific Jazz Carmell Jones recordings (also compiled
    into a must have Mosaic Select series, this also features
    a very young Gary Peacock, Harold Land, Frank Strazzeri on
    piano, etc. etc.)
    - Fingerpoppin', Horace Silver
    • Re: Great but Obscure Records

      Sun, March 14, 2004 - 7:00 PM
      Rashaan Roland Kirk's "The Case Of The 3 Sided Dream In Audio Color". This dream album combines Coltrane, Steely Dan, Parliament, and Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon". An altered states friendly album.
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        Re: Great but Obscure Records

        Sun, March 14, 2004 - 10:02 PM
        I don't know how obscure these are, but these are some of my favorites that don't hear mentioned much:

        Eddie Harris - The In Sound/Mean Greens (These quintet recordings make me think of Hollywood a little, something of a different flavor but in the same vein as a lot of the Blue Note stuff the big boys were recording at the same time. Real nice Freedom Jazz Dance from the guy who wrote it.)

        Herbie Hancock - Inventions and Dimensions (Love that first tune with the hand percussion. It's a great record to put on first thing in the morning to get yourself going.)

        Jackie McLean - Demon's Dance (with Woody Shaw. His tune Sweet Love of Mine is my favorite of the album, and the whole album has this mood that I like to tap into now and then.)

        The Max Roach Quartet featuring Hank Mobley (Recorded in 1953, this is just an interesting record. Listening to early Hank Mobley playing. Gigi Gryce alto cutting through some of the arrangements...one of those songs sounds like spy music. I don't listen to it much anymore, but I used to get a real kick out of it in college.)

        Sonny Rollins - East Broadway Rundown (This is another album I listen to just for the mood of it. It's not an 'okay, let's transcribe Sonny' album. But there is something real cool about the vibe set up by the first song that continues throughout the album).

        So that's what one pass through my CD collection produced. Reading the rest of your posts only reminds me of tons more albums I need to pick up. I really like that Kirk one, used to borrow it from a roomate.
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          Re: Great but Obscure Records

          Thu, April 1, 2004 - 4:56 PM
          Art Ensemble of Chicago - Bap-Tizum
          Sonny Sharrock - Ask the Ages
          Miles Davis - Live Evil
          Ben Webster - Soulsville
          Jimmy Scott - The Source
          Modern Jazz Quartet - Collaboration
          Johnny Smith - Moonlight in Vermont
          Sam Rivers - Complete Blue Note Recordings
          Django Reinhardt - And His American Friends
          Ornette Coleman - Of Human Feelings
      • Re: Great but Obscure Records

        Thu, March 18, 2004 - 9:33 AM
        There was a interesting article on the producer of this album in Wax Poetics (issue 5, I believe). He did most of Kirk and Yuseff Lateef's late sixty/ early seventies stuff.
        • Re: Great but Obscure Records

          Fri, March 19, 2004 - 10:16 PM
          <There was a interesting article on the producer of this album in Wax Poetics (issue 5, I believe). He did most of Kirk and Yuseff Lateef's late sixty/ early seventies stuff. >

          would that be joel dorn? if so, his son makes electronic music under the name mocean worker (m+ocean=motion) not nearly as interesting as his dad's work...
          • Joel Dorn

            Sun, March 21, 2004 - 8:59 AM
            (bing, bing, bing) We have a winner!

            You're right, T, it's Joel Dorn.

            And the article _was_ from issue five - "The Gig of the Universe (Joel Dorn reflects on his stoned soul jazz picnic at Atlatntic Records" by John Kruth.

            Another interesting interview from one of my favorite magazines.
            • Re: Joel Dorn

              Tue, March 23, 2004 - 9:36 AM
              <"The Gig of the Universe (Joel Dorn reflects on his stoned soul jazz picnic at Atlatntic Records">

              man, did they nail that one! i've seen his name on SO MANY amazing records... do those guys archive their articles on the web at all? i'm sure it's next to impossible to acquire back issues...
  • resurrected

    Fri, October 28, 2005 - 2:58 PM
    I thought I’d resurrect this thread by beating the drum (dead horse?) for Mulatu Astatke again.

    I can’t recommend highly enough “Éthiopiques, Vol. 4” the volume dedicated to the work of the “Master of Ehiojazz” Mulatu Astatke. This CD is good and crosses so many genre types (in fact it is included in the Rough Guide “100 Essential *Soul* CDs”) that it should appeal to just about anyone that likes good music period.

    -- Excerpted from NY Times article “By Ben Sisario

    In Jim Jarmusch's latest movie, "Broken Flowers," a graying former ladies' man played by Bill Murray has a strange companion with him as he searches for some old girlfriends. He's gloomy but intrigued by the quest, and his mood is matched by the passenger in his rental car: a CD of brooding and mysterious music, a little funky and a little slithery, a bit like a 1970's blaxploitation soundtrack and a bit like dense modal jazz. He never seems to know what to make of it, but he clearly likes it.

    The music is a particularly obscure vintage made in Ethiopia in the late 1960's and early 70's by a jazz innovator named Mulatu Astatke, and thanks to "Broken Flowers" and an acclaimed series of CD's, his music has enjoyed a little renaissance lately.

    From the moment Mr. Jarmusch first heard it the music got under his skin, he said, and he began seeking it out wherever he could find it.

    The music, influenced by American funk and soul, is being collected in "Éthiopiques," a series of albums on the French label Buda Musique. Mr. Astatke's disc, Vol. 4, is its best seller and has seen a bump in sales since "Broken Flowers" was released in August. It is now selling about 1,800 copies a week, said a spokeswoman for Allegro, the albums' American distributor.
    • Another Mulatu Astatke article

      Wed, November 2, 2005 - 11:29 AM
      From last weeks Village Voice:

      No current director uses music better than Jim Jarmusch. It's easy to hear what drew him to sides recorded in the 1970s by the Ethiopian vibist, percussionist, and composer Mulatu Astatke for this year's Broken Flowers. To American ears, including Bill Murray's, the groove and spiral of Astatke's tezetas is both exotic and reminiscent of home. And the blaxploitation and spaghetti western echoes make it sound like movie music already…The African diaspora gave birth to jazz, smitten African musicians adopt it to their own purposes, and jazz replenishes itself by looking to them—the circle never closes.
  • Re: Great but Obscure Records

    Tue, November 22, 2005 - 12:09 PM
    Danilo Perez: Motherland

    One of the best jazz pianists today. If you ever had the opportunity to see this CD long suite performed live, you were a very lucky person.

    World jazz with a Brazilian flair. I believe he is from Panama.
    Antonio Sanchez on drums and Chris Potter on sax.
    Richard Bono may also be on this recording.



  • Re: Great but Obscure Records

    Tue, December 13, 2005 - 3:32 AM
    Bobby Watson - Appointment in Milano

    Watson came to Italy and played in a Milan's jazz club with a local rhythm section, as it is usual when American jazz musicians tour Europe. This particular rhythm section was the Open Form trio. The Alto Saxophonist from Kansas City Bobby Watson liked so much the sound that he could create with this Italian trio that he decided to make a record. They reserved a recording studio for two days in Milan, but all the tracks came out perfectly at the first take in one single day. That record was Appointment in Milano and it is a masterpiece. The next day, since the studio had been paid in advance, they made another record (Round Trip)
    Boht records released with Italian label Red Records.

    I also suggest some hidden jewels of Italian Jazz:
    Massimo Urbani: a great alto sax player who sadly died young in 1993.
    I love all his records but If I have to choose two they are "360° Aeutopia" and "The Blessing" both with Red Records.

    Renato
    The Night Passage Jazz Podcast
    nightpassage.blogspot.com
  • Re: Great but Obscure Records

    Tue, December 13, 2005 - 1:13 PM
    Mark Weinstein's "Cuban Roots" is a sick-ass rekkid!!!

    www.rainlore.demon.co.uk/Revie...s.html

    1. Malanga (Rumba Columbia) - 6:20
    2. Michelle (Rumba Abierta) (Lennon/McCartney) - 2:57
    3. Ochosi-Om-Mi (Afro) - 3:42
    4. Chango (Nanigo) - 4:50
    5. Ochun (Rumba Illeca) - 3:45
    6. Just Another Guajira (Guajira) (M. Weinstein) - 3:15
    7. El Desenganado de los Roncos (Guaguanco) - 5:36
    8. El Barracon (Comparsa) - 4:00

    Personnel:
    Mark Weinstein - trombone
    Arnie Lawrence - alto sax
    Mario Rivera - baritone sax
    Chick Corea - piano
    Bobby Valentin - bass
    Kako - bell and palito
    Julito Collazo - conga and bass drum
    Tommy Lopez - conga drum
    Papaito - conga drum
    Papiro - conga drum

  • Re: Great but Obscure Records

    Sun, December 25, 2005 - 6:03 PM
    Hampton Hawes - "Live in the Sky"

    Recorded at Los Angeles Internationla Airport with Leroy Vinnegar and Donald Bailey. Hamp at his best.
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      Re: Great but Obscure Records

      Thu, January 5, 2006 - 10:54 AM
      Gabor Szabo - Jazz Ragga
      ( one of the first jazz albums I ever heard as a kid. )
      • Re: Great but Obscure Records

        Mon, April 17, 2006 - 10:15 PM
        David Murray Octet--Murray's Steps.

        The song "Sweet Lovely", especially Murray's bass clarinet, Henry Threadgill's flute solo, and Steve McCall's drumming. This song blew me away and continues to do so.
        I rank Steve McCall right up there with Elvin Jones in his ability to use the whole drum kit and still keep the beat.

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